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Bob Phillips
01-30-2007, 05:17 AM
For those of you like me who may visit Usenet newsgroups, here is a question for you.

I often get berated (not in the Excel groups I might add) for top posting and not bottom posting. But bottom posting seems ridiculous to me, having to scroll past everything until you get to the end to read the last reply.

The argument most often given for bottom posting is that it maintains the order of the posts (which is only true if the thread stays in one single branch), but to me that is irrelevant. I rarely want to read it all in one post. Most likely I have been following the thread, or I will read the previous posts. Personally, I find all of the previous messages, with their indentation and some marker, as being obtrusive, I would rather see more snipping.

What do you all think?

Zack Barresse
01-30-2007, 08:59 AM
I don't think it really matters and anyone who says it does is either expressing their personal tastes or being a jacka$$. One shouldn't complain about others habits. I do both and don't really care if it bothers anyone or not. Just MHO. :)

Ken Puls
01-30-2007, 10:21 AM
All right, call me a Jacka$$ then, but I prefer bottom posting. I have all ng's in my browser set in Threaded mode so that I can see the order of discussion. I find it a little confusing if you end up with the following situation:

A
-B (Reply To A)
--C (Reply to B)
---D (Reply to C)
-E (Reply to A)
--F(Reply to E)
-G (Reply to D)

To me, G should have replied to D, not A.

This does not hold true, however, if you're offering a full built solution to A and address other posts questions/answers... so long as you quote them. Without the quote, though, anyone is dead in the water unless they are following the post at the right time.

Honestly, though, I'd never berate anyone. I'd just post back if I didn't follow it, asking for clarification.

Zack Barresse
01-30-2007, 12:08 PM
Hmm, I should have said they are a jacka$$ if they want to complain about it. I was thinking it... ;)

Bob Phillips
01-30-2007, 01:38 PM
No, Ken offered, so let's take him up on it - jacka$$.

Actually, whilst I prefer to top-post, I can't bother about it, and don't understand why anyone should get agitated. But if everyone switched to bottom posting ... well!

mdmackillop
01-30-2007, 01:48 PM
Never visit UseNet newsgroups so I've never given it a thought.

Ignorance is bliss! :cloud9:

Ken Puls
01-30-2007, 02:04 PM
No, Ken offered, so let's take him up on it - jacka$$.

LOL!

Hey... just to clarify... are you talking about posting above the quoted reply, (by replying to the post) or going to the top of the thread to reply?

Bob Phillips
01-30-2007, 04:46 PM
Never visit UseNet newsgroups so I've never given it a thought.

Ignorance is bliss! :cloud9:
No, ignorance is ignorance.

Usenet groups are the happening place baby!

Bob Phillips
01-30-2007, 04:52 PM
LOL!

Hey... just to clarify... are you talking about posting above the quoted reply, (by replying to the post) or going to the top of the thread to reply?

Are you taking the p#*s?

How do you do the former, or the latter?

I am talking about putting your words that you use, in response to the words that the poster in the message that you are replying to used, before those words that the poster in the message that you are replying to used, and any others that the poster in the message that you are replying to may not have snipped.

Zack was right, you are a Jacka$$, a Canuck one at that (is that possible?).

Ken Puls
01-31-2007, 08:23 AM
Honestly, if you look at my reply above, you'll see that I was talking about thread order, (being at the bottom of a long thread, then replying to the original question,) not the actual textual reply within the thread. You're right... I am a Jacka$$! :doh:

Any rate, with the actual reply post, I prefer top posting if I'm just replying, (leaving everything,) and bottom posting if I'm quoting sections. Too many people just hit reply, leave EVERYTHING in the post, and reply at the bottom. That's a lot of scrolling to get to a one liner. I think more people need to delete what is not relevent to their reply.

That make sense?

Bob Phillips
01-31-2007, 08:26 AM
I was only teasing. You should have realised that when I said '... Zack was right...'!

Ken Puls
01-31-2007, 08:32 AM
:eek:

I missed that! I take it back then! :rofl:

Zack Barresse
01-31-2007, 09:44 AM
Ooh, ouch.. oooooh, that hurt! :bug: .. :p

Brandtrock
01-31-2007, 11:22 PM
Can those who would complain about top posting understand your solutions? It seems that they might be just thick enough (yet thin skinned) to be confused by having to pay attention. :cool:


For those of you like me who may visit Usenet newsgroups, here is a question for you.

I often get berated (not in the Excel groups I might add) for top posting and not bottom posting. But bottom posting seems ridiculous to me, having to scroll past everything until you get to the end to read the last reply.

The argument most often given for bottom posting is that it maintains the order of the posts (which is only true if the thread stays in one single branch), but to me that is irrelevant. I rarely want to read it all in one post. Most likely I have been following the thread, or I will read the previous posts. Personally, I find all of the previous messages, with their indentation and some marker, as being obtrusive, I would rather see more snipping.

What do you all think?


I don't think it really matters and anyone who says it does is either expressing their personal tastes or being a jacka$$. One shouldn't complain about others habits. I do both and don't really care if it bothers anyone or not. Just MHO. :)

Zack doesn't seem to think it matters, so I bottom posted (relative to his quotation) this reply.


All right, call me a Jacka$$ then, but I prefer bottom posting. I have all ng's in my browser set in Threaded mode so that I can see the order of discussion. I find it a little confusing if you end up with the following situation:

A
-B (Reply To A)
--C (Reply to B)
---D (Reply to C)
-E (Reply to A)
--F(Reply to E)
-G (Reply to D)

To me, G should have replied to D, not A.

This does not hold true, however, if you're offering a full built solution to A and address other posts questions/answers... so long as you quote them. Without the quote, though, anyone is dead in the water unless they are following the post at the right time.

Honestly, though, I'd never berate anyone. I'd just post back if I didn't follow it, asking for clarification.

What you failed to include is the case where H jumps in and hijacks the thread for problem that is only related to the OP's in that they both use the same application. :rofl:


Hmm, I should have said they are a jacka$$ if they want to complain about it. I was thinking it... ;)

No, Ken offered, so let's take him up on it - jacka$$.

Actually, whilst I prefer to top-post, I can't bother about it, and don't understand why anyone should get agitated. But if everyone switched to bottom posting ... well!

Bottom Posting by Bottom Feeders. Could be a book in that somewhere. :clap:


Never visit UseNet newsgroups so I've never given it a thought.

Ignorance is bliss! :cloud9:

therefore, I am very blissful.



No, Ken offered, so let's take him up on it - jacka$$.
LOL!

Hey... just to clarify... are you talking about posting above the quoted reply, (by replying to the post) or going to the top of the thread to reply?

more importantly, do you use the number keys along the top of the alpha keys, or the numeric keypad?



Never visit UseNet newsgroups so I've never given it a thought.

Ignorance is bliss! :cloud9:

No, ignorance is ignorance.

:think:




LOL!

Hey... just to clarify... are you talking about posting above the quoted reply, (by replying to the post) or going to the top of the thread to reply? Are you taking the p#*s?

How do you do the former, or the latter?

I am talking about putting your words that you use, in response to the words that the poster in the message that you are replying to used, before those words that the poster in the message that you are replying to used, and any others that the poster in the message that you are replying to may not have snipped.

Zack was right, you are a Jacka$$, a Canuck one at that (is that possible?).

Usenet groups are the happening place baby!

I really like it in an e-mail when you get 5,000 arrows because all of your bestest friends simply hit Forward, rather than taking the time to copy and paste the clean version from the beginning, or deleting all the "extra" crap out of it.

OK, just call me "H"


Honestly, if you look at my reply above, you'll see that I was talking about thread order, (being at the bottom of a long thread, then replying to the original question,) not the actual textual reply within the thread. You're right... I am a Jacka$$! :doh:

Any rate, with the actual reply post, I prefer top posting if I'm just replying, (leaving everything,) and bottom posting if I'm quoting sections. Too many people just hit reply, leave EVERYTHING in the post, and reply at the bottom. That's a lot of scrolling to get to a one liner. I think more people need to delete what is not relevent to their reply.

That make sense?

Agreed!


I was only teasing. You should have realised that when I said '... Zack was right...'!

Bob, you :devil2:.



:eek:

I missed that! I take it back then! :rofl:
:doh:


Ooh, ouch.. oooooh, that hurt! :bug: .. :p
Anyway, that's just my opinion!!!

Regards,

Ken Puls
02-01-2007, 09:46 AM
Wow, TJ... did you miss anything there? LOL!

Zack Barresse
02-03-2007, 12:00 PM
Only the kitchen sink. :D

Brandtrock
02-03-2007, 07:00 PM
Here ya go Zack:

Zack Barresse
02-04-2007, 03:21 PM
And that's a wrap folks. :D