Any Aussies out there?

[Bob Phillips]

Or are they all in hiding?

[mdmackillop]

or crying in their beer?

[Bob Phillips]

... not to mention NewZies.

I thought southern hemisphere rugby was supposed to be strong!

[Oorang]

They are all off signing Men Without Hat's songs, they'll be by later.

[psionic]

Boo!

Oi! Fair dickum mate!

You talking to one down here that hate the taste of beer. I don't drink but I do drive.

Psionic

[Aussiebear]

South Africa will put this anomoly right...... :ole:

[Oorang]

According to this (http://www.vbaexpress.com/forum/memberlocations.php) there are over 400 of ya'll:) You can go say hi to the newest one here (http://www.vbaexpress.com/forum/member.php?u=12091).

[Bob Phillips]

South Africa will put this anomoly right...... :ole:

Ya gotta get to the final to get beaten in the final, quarter's don't do it for anyone.

[Oorang]

Ya'll would be referring to soccer would ya :board: ? Sigh to think you have the nerve to call it "football" :whyme:

:outtahere


OK enough trolling;)

[Bob Phillips]

No, we are talking Rugby here. I know what football is but I have no idea what soccer is. Is it some game played by second-raters who can't play football?

[Oorang]

No, we are talking Rugby here.
Ah :) Don't really have that here, but I can't dog on rugby. That is a tough game it's like American Football meets UFC. lol

I know what football is but I have no idea what soccer is. Is it some game played by second-raters who can't play football? :rotlaugh: That is so true so many different ways :rofl:

[Bob Phillips]

Ah :) Don't really have that here, but I can't dog on rugby. That is a tough game it's like American Football meets UFC. lol

You do. The US was in this in this competition. Whilst they didn't get past the pool stages, they acquitted themselves well, nobody hammered them.

[johnske]

Go Springboks!!! :thumb :thumb As far as the brits are concerned... let's just say they're lucky they've got Jonny Wilkinson, otherwise they'd... :bike:

[Aussiebear]

Johnske, well said sir. That there youngster "Bob" is riding a wee bit high in the saddle.

Come the big one, and we'll have to pass the hat around for Bob.... he'll need some tissues....

:cry::cry::cry:

[Bob Phillips]

Johnske, well said sir. That there youngster "Bob" is riding a wee bit high in the saddle.

Come the big one, and we'll have to pass the hat around for Bob.... he'll need some tissues....

:cry::cry::cry:

See, you upside-downers just don't get it.

John roots for the Springboks (which he probably hates more than he hates NZ most of the time) just because they are playing us. We can't get on our bike, it's full of excuse making upside-downers. John can't accept that SA are better than Auz, and SO ARE WE .... LMSO! As for saying that we would be no good without Johnny, that is like saying that Auz would be no good without George Gregan ... actually, they are no good with him, or Matt Git, or Mortlock, or Smith, or any of that pathetic pack (oh I am loving this ...). Maybe Auz can get the rules changed so that whenever they play it is a game of uncontetsted scrums ... ROFL.

Don't forget that England came into this tournament as the worst rated champions ever to defend the title; were even touted as not getting to the quarter finals; and got smashed by SA in the pool games. But here we are, in the final. If as expected, SA beat us, I will shed no tears. I expect them to do better than the last game, and if they acquit themselves well, great, if by some chance they win, then fantastic. Either way, we have done well, whereas NZ and Auz fail ... AGAIN.

Never mind guys, it's another 4 years before we dump you out of the world cup again. By then you might just have gotten a half decent scrum, and nancy boys like Matt Git might stop prancing and play some rugby.

[johnske]

Doesn't matter what you say, Wilko is a one-man team - a freak of the game, and good on him. When he goes you'll really be in trouble (hmm, wonder if he's interested in emigrating :devil2: to oz)

[mdmackillop]

Go Springboks!!! :thumb :thumb As far as the brits are concerned... let's just say they're lucky they've got Jonny Wilkinson, otherwise they'd... :bike:
There are no "brits" in the competion. Scottish, Irish, Welsh, and the other lot that inhabit the bit north of the Isle of Wight, and they're welcome to their second rate kicker. How many misses now?
BTW as loyal Scots we support only two teams. Scotland, and the one playing against England.
Go Springboks!!!

[johnske]

...as loyal Scots we support only two teams. Scotland, and the one playing against England.
Go Springboks!!!:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: well said sir...

[Bob Phillips]

Doesn't matter what you say, Wilko is a one-man team - a freak of the game, and good on him. When he goes you'll really be in trouble (hmm, wonder if he's interested in emigrating :devil2: to oz)

That is total tosh and you know it. Wilko is good, but not that good. He is better than Larkham admittedly, and tons better than the second rater who stood in when Larkham cried off, but he is no Dan Carter, now there is a real outside half, and no Barry John.

And I repeat .. England are in the final, Auz are not. England did not expect to get there, Auz did. So who is laughing now?

[Bob Phillips]

There are no "brits" in the competion. Scottish, Irish, Welsh, and the other lot that inhabit the bit north of the Isle of Wight, and they're welcome to their second rate kicker. How many misses now?
BTW as loyal Scots we support only two teams. Scotland, and the one playing against England.
Go Springboks!!!

Sorry, like it or not, the English are Brits. The non-English detritus in the kingdom are also Brits, but they'll never figure in the equation, so who cares.

Better a second-rate kicker than a second-rate team (name the sport, any sport). It is that jaundiced outlook regarding England that confines Scotland to the third division.

And as I said to John ...


And I repeat .. England are in the final, Auz (read Scotland) are not. England did not expect to get there, Auz did (admittedly Scotland didn't, and never will). So who is laughing now?

[Aussiebear]

Did you cross our line, with your so called superior scrum..... you didn't come within a country mile of it.

and who was it that continually cried "foul" to the Ref all the game? your mob did, and why did they do this? Because they knew this would eventually gain a penalty for Jonny... You may well be laughing now, but after the finals, the Springboks will be holding the trophy aloft.


I have no problem with saying the Springboks are the better side. The English side will be called "also rans".

[Bob Phillips]

Did you cross our line, with your so called superior scrum..... you didn't come within a country mile of it.

Sorry! What was the score again?


and who was it that continually cried "foul" to the Ref all the game? your mob did, and why did they do this? Because they knew this would eventually gain a penalty for Jonny... You may well be laughing now, but after the finals, the Springboks will be holding the trophy aloft.

We cried foul because deliberately pulling the scrum down is foul play, and bloody dangerous. Some say the Auz play on the edge of the rules, but we all know they are the worst cheats in the game. NZ and SA are tough, AUz are foul.


I have no problem with saying the Springboks are the better side. The English side will be called "also rans".

Auz never stopped walking. I can live with second best this time, wher do AUz figure, after Fiji, Scotland, Argentine, France, ... and so on.

keep it coming boys, you were dumped in the quarters, remember that. Even Michael Lynagh said that you were outplayed in all departments, and he does know a abit.

[johnske]

Look, you can denigrate, bag, belittle (or whatever) Wilkos contribution to Englands 12-10 win over Oz, but the fact of the matter is that without the points scored off Wilkos boot, the score would stand at Aus 10 - England 0, yep that's right, a big fat zero for England versus a whole 10 points for Australia. :devil2:

[Bob Phillips]

I wasn't decrying Wilinson's contribution, I happen to rate the guy highly. I do rate others more highly though, such as Dan Carter.

But your argument is fatuous. I could say to you that without T'quiri's try, and whoever scored the other points (I have no idea who, nor care, we won), the score would have been 12-0 to us. But he did, Wilkinson did, and we won. This is fact, it is history, and you are really struggling to accept it. I hate to think what you were like four years ago.

I am done on this topic now, it isn't going anywhere.

[Aussiebear]

Bring on the Springboks......

[johnske]

Paper! Paper! Read all about it (http://www.bangkokpost.com/sportsplus/sportsplus.php?id=122828) there's winners and there's ... well, there's losers :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :devil2:

[Aussiebear]

Well I'm not going to rub it in....



..... much :mbounce2:

[mdmackillop]

Enough of the shadenfreude, but well done the Springboks. :clap::clap::clap:

[Bob Phillips]

Yeah, there are winners, losers,... and also rans. What category do you think that Scotland and Australia come into? Also rans is probably over-egging it for them.

As I said earlier, I didn't expect England to win, they over-acheived in getting to the final (as Scotland di in getting out of the pool stages, whereas Auz and NZ massivley under-acheived), and SA were always in control of the game even though we didn't let them play (Matfield is one hell of a player). But I am happy for the boys that they did achieve what they did. But ... I fear that getting to the final was not good for the game in England. We have massive club v country problems, the two are constantly at war. If we had been knocked out in the quarters, or even the pool stages, I think it might have precipitated a good long hard look at the game, and a long overdue overhaul. Now I fear it won't. Unfortunately, one brave campaign does not paper over the cracks.

But whilst we have problems, what about Auz, and especially NZ? NZ were, still are IMO, the best team in the world, but when it came to the crunch they bottled it. Is the home expectation so much that when pressured, they are scared to change their game? I don't know, but I bet they spend the next 4 years smashing every team in sight, then in 4 years they'll blow it again. And in NZ to boot.

[johnske]

To be serious, England played a magnificent game and it was unfortunate that they didn't get a better result. The disallowed try might have made a large difference. But then - even though I don't really follow the game - I seem to remember that Oz also had a disallowed try that was later found to be clearly a mistake on the refs part. That try also may have made a large difference to the result (hmmm, dunno, but wasn't that one in the match against England that saw Oz out and England in?) :)

[Bob Phillips]

I was being serious too John, deadly serious.

Strange but I don't recall that Auz try (selective memory?), but I don't think that anyone really thought the result was a mis-carriage, we were better in nearly every department, and it was only a lack of our fire-power that stopped it being a much easier victory. Even the Auz team have acknowledged this (to their credit, France were just as worthy winners over NZ, but the NZ response has been petulant and ingracious).

As for our disallowed try, I have seen it from every angle, and whilst my heart tells me it was a try, Cueto got his foot up before it went over the line, my head tells me that it was incredibly close and I really think he just touched the line before he upped it. And as I also said, whilst we stopped SA from a free-flowing game, they were really in control throughout.

I do follow the game, and as I pointed out I think our performance masks our overall problems in the game. But as I also said, NZ and Auz also have problems that they have to address. Then again, so do Italy and Argentine. They have done well recently, especially Argentine in this world cup, but they do not have a strong domestice league, they all play abroad, so their future is very uncertain.