Annual income poll

[brettdj]

Something a little different

This is a bit of socioeconomic curiousity seeing what sort of income category VBA experts and users fall in. I'll delay my post so that I'm not first and I give anything away :p

Here goes

[Zack Barresse]

Barley topped that category!! :D

I'll pull about $31,000/year. Not rich, but it gets me and my family by. :yes

[shades]

With my day job I am just under 50,000. But I teach college classes in the evenings so that brings it just over.

[Ken Puls]

My position on the chart depends on the strength of the Canadian dollar! :rotlaugh:

[XL-Dennis]

I?m a rich man because I got a lovely family and some very good friends, and a better health :beerchug:

I?m a poor man when it comes to $$$ :(

But still I insist on: I?m a lucky & happy man :thumb

And anyone who earn more money then me I?m happy on their behalf :bow:

Great new smilies:friends:

Kind regards,
Dennis

[Zack Barresse]

I?m a rich man because I got a lovely family and some very good friends, and a better health :beerchug: ..

Amen brother!!! :thumb

[shades]

In addition to an "Amen!" I would like to point out that it depends on where you live, and by what standard you live. We grew up in a time when we would have been classifed as very poor. But compared to world standards we were well off - we had food everyday, and plenty of firewood to keep us warm in the winter. But we never considered ourselves poor.

When I taught High School 35 years ago, I made $7,000 - but that required that I also coach the wrestling team, and work at every sporting event that I wasn't coaching. And it was the highest salary in Minnesota for starting teachers. But our lifestyle didn't change.

Over the years we have supported a couple of families, completely. And it seems that God always provided what we needed for ourselves.

And even now, except to the computer and many theological books we have no more than we did back then - of course, many scars, and many gray hairs - well, my wife does, what's left of mine is gray. ;)

So, with Dennis, it is attitude and where you are in life. We indeed have been blessed.

Sorry to high-jack the thread for a "senior moment". :)

[brettdj]

> I?m a rich man because I got a lovely family and some very good friends, and a better health :beerchug:

Thats certainly the main game. :)

I was interested to see what sort of demographic we fit in. Its a well educated, computer literate group who spend a lot of their time helping others with Excel for the hell of it.

Cheers

Dave

[mdmackillop]

equivalent US$ income you will earn this year
What I get paid is a different matter! :(

MD

[brettdj]

what I deserve, a different matter again :)

[jeeves]

I'm doing okay for my age, experience, and expenses.

Mind you, I keep my expenses as low as I can, since I have a love beyond my job - rock climbing - and it takes up a LOT of my money.


oh yeah - did you want amounts reported before or after taxes? :mkay

[shades]

After taxes - "You owe the government 90% of your income. You have 30 days to make your payment."
:(

[Anne Troy]

I once heard an interesting theory, at least for those of us in the US. According to it, you should make $1000 for each year you've been around. Well, on social security, I'm sure not making $46,000/year, but I was right on the money at my last job. :)

[Paleo]

The comic part is that I have voted but my vote may be wrong in a few days as the US dollar is very volatile down here now-a-days. It was US$ 1.00 = R$ 3,00 a week ago, now its US$ 1.00 = R$ 2,65, so if it keeps changing I may have voted wrong...

[shades]

I once heard an interesting theory, at least for those of us in the US. According to it, you should make $1000 for each year you've been around.
Based on this approach, I think I need a major pay raise! :)

[brettdj]

This poll is keeping symmetrical.

[jeeves]

I once heard an interesting theory, at least for those of us in the US. According to it, you should make $1000 for each year you've been around. Well, on social security, I'm sure not making $46,000/year, but I was right on the money at my last job. :)
ha! i started out young in the industry... i've been making almost twice my age... happened by fluke, but it's been consistent the past few years, within a K or so. CAD, of course (1CAD = ~.77USD) it's going to be tough to keep this up...

[Brandtrock]

This poll is keeping symmetrical. While the distribution appears Normal,

I refuse to conform to normalcy :bug: !

Regards,

[The Tamer]

I guess with my two incomes - work and rental, I earn an equivalent of around $46,000 dollars. Problem is that most things are more expensive in the UK than in the States. (Petrol - or "gas" - is around five times more expensive here!) and the tax we pay on our purchases is 17.5%. And house prices are just through the roof!!! So I guess, in terms of what my money gets me, I would look like an "average to below-average paid" American.

Not that I'm complaining. In the future, I hope to get a transfer of work from the UK to the US. My parent company, Centrica, has its fingers in some big US pies at the moment, so the chance of a transfer is not as remote as it use to be. I guess much will depend on US immigration laws.

[cmpgeek]

(Petrol - or "gas" - is around five times more expensive here!)
yall pay out nearly $9 a gallon for gas !?!?!?!?!
:eek: :jawdown: :fainted:

[The Tamer]

OK,

Going on today's national average pump price and the GBP - USD rate, it would cost you $7.03 per gallon. Is that bad?

[The Tamer]

Incidentally, that price includes VAT (the 17.5% I mentioned earlier) and Fuel Duty. So tax makes up around 70% of the overall percentage of the price of fuel in the UK!

[Brendazona]

OK,

Going on today's national average pump price and the GBP - USD rate, it would cost you $7.03 per gallon. Is that bad?


Guess I won't complain about $1.89 any more.

[cmpgeek]

Guess I won't complain about $1.89 any more.

Amen to that!!!

[mvidas]

Just on a side note, back in June I started a thread on EE about gas prices, and had a huge response. Granted, the conversion rates and gas prices have changed a little bit since then, but to get an idea of different prices around the globe, see
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Q_21016457.html

(btw- $1.89? I'd still take that, I filled up at $2.19 the other day..)

[mdmackillop]

Tamer is slightly out in his calculation, as he probably forgot that in addition to the trouble our worthy cousins have with their spelling, they also have problems with their measures!

1 US gallon = 3.785 litres 1 UK gallon = 4.54 litres


Scotland is said to have the highest oil prices in Europe. A survey in April 2004 found people in the Outer Hebrides paid the most in the UK, with a litre of unleaded costing 86.7p ($6.09/usg) compared with 73.4p($5.15/usg) in Thanet, Kent. Since then the price at the pumps in Stornoway has risen to 90.9p a litre ($6.38/usg)

[The Tamer]

Actually, I took into account that our cousins have issues with both our spelling and our measures. I got the fuel price info from the AA website, and the Litre to US gallon from metric-conversions.org.

So there! :giggle

[matthewspatrick]

Something a little different

This is a bit of socioeconomic curiousity seeing what sort of income category VBA experts and users fall in. I'll delay my post so that I'm not first and I give anything away :p

Here goes

Well, based on earned income only (i.e., investment income not included), and only for myself and not the household (OK, I generate 98% of my household's income :devil: ), I won't get any more specific than that I am helping the right tail of the distribution...

[Bob Phillips]

yall pay out nearly $9 a gallon for gas !?!?!?!?!


No, it is closer to $7, and our gallon is 25% bigger than yours, so that equates to about $6. Although some parts of the country are much more. The rest of Europe is expensive too, there is a fallacy here in the UK that we pay the highest fuel costs in Europe, which is just not true. Spain is a bit cheaper, especially diesel, but France is a bit higher, Italy tends to be also.

But houses are very expensive, where I live the average house price is circa $350,000 (average mind), cars are expensive, rates are high (I pay $350 a month for my community, water and sewerage rates), and many many more. The UK is very expensive.

[matthewspatrick]

No, it is closer to $7, and our gallon is 25% bigger than yours, so that equates to about $6.....

In college I spent a summer studying in London. I was immensely thrilled when I discovered the Imperial pint was large than the pint I was used to getting in the States :devil:

[Ken Puls]

In college I spent a summer studying in London. I was immensely thrilled when I discovered the Imperial pint was large than the pint I was used to getting in the States :devil:

ROTFL! But were you okay with it being served warm instead of cold? :think:

[Bob Phillips]

ROTFL! But were you okay with it being served warm instead of cold? :think:

You heathen North Americans! We do not drink warm beer, we drink beer at room temperature. Ales, which is (or was) the predominant drink in the UK, suffers if served cold. On a warm day, a lager beer can be improved by chilling, but the current trend by over-chilling beer (even Guinness! - sacrilege), strikes me as a ploy to nullify the taste (or in the case of North American beers, to pretend that they have got a taste), in order to increase the volume consumed. Presentation over substance.

[matthewspatrick]

ROTFL! But were you okay with it being served warm instead of cold? :think:

Ken,

I never got a warm beer in London. My recollection was that it was served slightly below room temperature--maybe about 60 F or so.

Patrick

[shades]

Seems that when I was in a British pub in Hong Kong 30 years ago, that the Ale was colder than room temp.

But that was a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. ;)

[Ken Puls]

LOL!

I posted that for Bob's sake, as I figured he'd react like that! :rotlaugh:

I never got a warm beer in London, either. I believe you'd call it cellar temperature... slightly chilled, but not cold.

Cheers!

[Bob Phillips]

Ken,

I never got a warm beer in London. My recollection was that it was served slightly below room temperature--maybe about 60 F or so.

Patrick

In England, 60F is room temperature!

[Bob Phillips]

I never got a warm beer in London, either. I believe you'd call it cellar temperature... slightly chilled, but not cold.

Well, clearly it has to be cellar temperature, but we are talking from days when the rooms were cooler and the cellars were warmer. There is a philistine practice of cooling the beer, which with ales is not only unnecessary, it destroys flavour as I said.

Boringly, no Americans rose to my jibe about lack of flavour in your beers http://vbaexpress.com/forum/images/smilies/banghead.gif.

I was in Portland recently, and most of my time seemed to be in bars, drinking micro-beers. I have to say that I expected to enjoy, but I was utterly unimpressed, they were either overloaded with flavourings, or highly spiced. Absolutely no subtlety in the beers at all. The best drink I had over there was a Talisker (mind you, if I had gotb hold ofv a 100 proof Wikd Turkey http://vbaexpress.com/forum/images/smilies/beerchug.gif)

[Bob Phillips]

Seems that when I was in a British pub in Hong Kong 30 years ago, that the Ale was colder than room temp.

But that was a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. ;)

Yeah but Hong Kong temperatures are somewhat higher than Britsih.

[shades]

Ah, that explains it. Of course, coming from Northern Minnesota, everything was warm! :D

[mvidas]

I was in Portland recently, and most of my time seemed to be in bars, drinking micro-beers. I have to say that I expected to enjoy, but I was utterly unimpressed, they were either overloaded with flavourings, or highly spiced.
I was in portland this past summer too, only went to two microbreweries. The only one I was actually impressed with was the black butte porter, but thats not even from portland (I think its from bend, right zack?)
I was impressed with the number of microbreweries though, i suppose its a good thing I didn't get to try too many (started in seattle that day and wanted to make it to the redwoods by sleep time :))

[Zack Barresse]

Yeah, close to there. Black Butte Ranch is a gated community near the Bend area, central Oregon. I have a good friend on the FD there, we used to work on the same department, been through a lot with him. :)

[Bob Phillips]

I was in portland this past summer too, only went to two microbreweries. The only one I was actually impressed with was the black butte porter, but thats not even from portland (I think its from bend, right zack?)

I had a couple of Black Butte porter beers on the train down from Seattle to Portland (well 4 actually), and I don't recall it being anything special at all. The train ride was great though, far better value than the UK, and a great experience. And I loved Portland, my kind of town, very boutique'y, good student population, good little music scene (we were walking by a bar one afternoon, and saw a band setting up, went and asked about it, and it was the Proclaimers, had a good night watching them)

[geekgirlau]

I had a quick look at the fuel prices - recently we were paying the equivalent of $3.96 per gallon, and am currently paying about $3.06.

By the way, I don't think you guys should be discussing beer without consulting an Aussie first - we have a reputation to defend! (Although being a scotch drinker I'm probably not the best advocate!)

[mdmackillop]

By the way, I don't think you guys should be discussing beer without consulting an Aussie first
Beer, yes. but not the XXXX that Aussies think is beer :drunkard:

[geekgirlau]

Hey, only Queenslanders think XXXX is beer :tongue2: - there's heaps of others to try, and I'm sure if you approach the right government agency there'd be a research grant in it for you.

[shades]

By the way, I don't think you guys should be discussing beer without consulting an Aussie first - we have a reputation to defend! (Although being a scotch drinker I'm probably not the best advocate!)
Seems that this discussion took place in that pub in Hong Kong between the Brits and Aussies. I left while I could still walk, so never found out how the discussion ended. I do remember that they were lined up at the dart board... I assume to play darts. ;)

[shades]

I had a couple of Black Butte porter beers on the train down from Seattle to Portland (well 4 actually), and I don't recall it being anything special at all.
I really appreciate you, Bob. But I don't know... 4 beers here, ... sampling every micro-brewery there... And you can remember all this? hmmmmm... yep, remember that going on in the Hong Kong pub, too. :dunno










Just teasing from an old(er) codger. :hi:

[Bob Phillips]

I really appreciate you, Bob. But I don't know... 4 beers here, ... sampling every micro-brewery there... And you can remember all this? hmmmmm... yep, remember that going on in the Hong Kong pub, too.


What else do you do on a train?

[Bob Phillips]

I had a quick look at the fuel prices - recently we were paying the equivalent of $3.96 per gallon, and am currently paying about $3.06.

By the way, I don't think you guys should be discussing beer without consulting an Aussie first - we have a reputation to defend! (Although being a scotch drinker I'm probably not the best advocate!)

Is an Aussie gallon an Imperial gallon, or a US gallon? I can't remember when prices were that low over here.

[geekgirlau]

I was calculating a US gallon - a UK gallon converts to either 2.73 pounds/gallon or 4.05 Euros. We don't actually use gallons at all - our prices are in litres (currently about AU$1.08 per litre).

[Bob Phillips]

I was calculating a US gallon - a UK gallon converts to either 2.73 pounds/gallon or 4.05 Euros. We don't actually use gallons at all - our prices are in litres (currently about AU$1.08 per litre).

So do we, but just because the Yanks use gallons we all still talk gallons. Time for a peasant's revolt methinks http://vbaexpress.com/forum/images/smilies/devil.gif

[shades]

Methinks thou art correct. And ya'll better lern how to spel proprly (liken, "color" and "favor" and... ). ;)

[mdmackillop]

So how about a compromise? Petrol/Galoline to be priced in $(US)/Litre. Equally inconvenient for eveyone. For our American cousins, here's some help.:friends:
http://www.efunda.com/smc_units/convert_units.cfm?From=291

[Wizard]

I once heard an interesting theory, at least for those of us in the US. According to it, you should make $1000 for each year you've been around. Well, on social security, I'm sure not making $46,000/year, but I was right on the money at my last job. :)

That $1K/year-of-age figure was first put forward about 25 years ago for Yuppie types... now if you add in inflation @ 3.5%/yr (probably too low) it would be closer to $2300/yr.:p

[bodhi]

Hey, only Queenslanders think XXXX is beer images/smilies/tongue%202.gif

XXXX Rocks! But seriously, my drink of choice is Bundaberg Rum.http://vbaexpress.com/forum/images/smilies/dance.gif

On the fuel price topic, I was working in Venezuela a few months back and the fuel there was $0.068/Litre. That's right ...6.8c/litre! Mind you it was a bit daunting filling up with a National Guardsmen (armed with a machine gun) looking over your shoulder.

[Aussiebear]

I'd like to tell you how much money I make but, I'm embarrassed by how small an amount it is.

Ted

[Zack Barresse]

No worries Aussiebear, I don't make much either. Don't say if you don't want to, but don't be embarassed. :)

Heck, I'm making less this year than I thought I was, by about $8k! 'Tis ok though, it's never about the money. ;)

[shades]

I once heard an interesting theory, at least for those of us in the US. According to it, you should make $1000 for each year you've been around. Well, on social security, I'm sure not making $46,000/year, but I was right on the money at my last job.

Anne, with my good news yesterday I surpassed this. Yep - 18% pay raise, retro-active to Nov. 10, plus potential bonus goes from 5% to 10%.

First time in my long, long, long life that I am slightly ahead of the curve. But I'm not sure I can keep peddling like this. With retirement in the not-too-distant future, I may have to work until I am 90 or 95 to make it.:hi:

[austenr]

It is not how much money you have that makes you a rich man. Money and possessions are nice but as long as you have someone or somebody who loves you you are the richest man or woman on earth. IMHO. I don't have that much of the former but have plenty of the latter. I feel very blessed.

[Wizard]

"Money can't buy happiness, but it sure as hell helps pay for the illusion!!"

[shades]

Lest anyone misunderstand my post about the pay raise, etc., after my relationship with Jesus Christ, I consider my wife, two sons, and four grandchildren far more important than a job or salary increases. It's that after 5 years of 1/2% pay increase, this is a pleasant change.

[Zack Barresse]

You always do have your priorities straight, don't you Rich. ;)

[Imdabaum]

I'm just an intern so I can't complain about my pay. I'm grateful for the experience to learn and be a part of a great team where I can learn better coding practices, but mostly learn how to build real databases and not large excel spreadsheets.