Referring to objects in running Powerpoint presentation

I am trying to verify the slide and shape clicked to then make varying things happen. I can make it work when the presentation is not running but not when it is. I guess it's because I am not referring to the correct container/object at that time, but can't figure out what it should be, so any help would be much appreciated.

here is a working snippet when the presentation is not running:

If (ActiveWindow.Selection.ShapeRange.Name) = "Playing card 1" Then
If (ActiveWindow.Selection.SlideRange.SlideID) = 283 Then
Set Target = ActivePresentation.Slides.FindBySlideID(279)
MsgBox ("This is the shape with a Card for Linus and target slide " & Target.SlideIndex)
End If
End If

Msgbox doesn't appear in presentation, if a add an errorhandler it always errors. I've tried ActivePresentation.Slides instead of ActiveWindow and various others without success.

When you post the same question in multiple forums you should always say so. Otherwise people may be working on an answer that already exists elsewhere.

Cross Post: Referring to objects in running PowerPoint presentation (msofficeforums.com)

Thank you, sorry, etiquette learned.
I have found out out that the slide information can be gleaned like this....
ActivePresentation.SlideShowWindow.View.Slide.SlideID or .SlideIndex or .SlideNumber.
But not how to do similar during Presentation for a Shape.

....And I see you have answered in the other forum Thank you. For anyone else looking this is ....Referring to objects in running PowerPoint presentation (msofficeforums.com)