Thanks for the explanation!

I tried figuring out a way to move the labels to accommodate for having both buttons on the same side, but gave up. With enough trial and error math I'm pretty sure one could find the middle of the scrollbar in reference to the userform...but when the buttons are both on one side, the middle of the scrollable area is not the middle of the scrollbar.

For my project, people will be happy enough to be able to type in times; the labels did not exist previously, so they will not be missed

I truly appreciate your time and expertise!