Ive read your info regards the MAC code and have a querry - I have tried the long vba version and it seems to work fine on win98 to XP if there is a Network card installed ( not part of the motherboard ) but if there is not a card installed and you rely on the motherboard to get the MAC address then the vba code does not work and the short version does - my question is - is there a way to convert the short version to display the MAC address if the long version does not work and for both methods to view in cells not display boxes? this would help solve a problem I have had for a while.